Which should you buy?
Choose the Guide TR if you want extra stability from a broad platform on mixed routes.
Choose the Challenger 8 if you want a lighter, proven max-cushion shoe for road and gravel, or need a wide fit.
The Guide TR is 46 g heavier than the Challenger 8. Its drop is 6 mm against 8 mm. It costs £10 more at full price.
Side by side
| Spec | Guide TRSaucony | Challenger 8HOKA |
|---|---|---|
| Review score | Not enough reviews yet | 85/100 (2 reviews) |
| Type | Road to trail | Road to trail |
| Weight (men's UK 8.5) | 315 g | 269 g |
| Heel stack | 41 mm | 42 mm |
| Drop | 6 mm | 8 mm |
| Cushioning | Soft | Soft |
| Bounce | Lively | Lively |
| Plate | No plate | No plate |
| Support | Inherently stable | Neutral |
| Fit | True to size | True to size |
| Widths | standard | standard, wide |
| Waterproof version | No | HOKA Challenger 8 GTX |
| UK RRP | £140 | £130 |
Weights are for a men's US 9 / UK 8.5. Prices are UK RRPs; shops often sell for less.
What the critics say
The reviews comparedIndependent reviews of the Saucony Guide TR aren't out yet. The HOKA Challenger 8 pleased RunRepeat's Carlos Sánchez and Road Trail Run's Ben David and Renee Krusemark, who liked its plentiful cushioning, roomier fit and grippier lugs on gravel. Sánchez found the foam dated, while Road Trail Run's Reed Breuer felt it mushy and less secure on trails, and Krusemark noted a narrow medial side.
Guide TR
Challenger 8
- Plenty of cushioning and shock absorption
- Roomier, less tapered fit
- Redesigned lugs grip better on gravel
- Slightly heavier and pricier than v7
- Dated CMEVA foam with modest rebound
Scores from RunRepeat, Road Trail Run.
Paraphrased from published reviews.
What's new in each
HOKA Challenger 8: Much taller stack with the drop rising from 5 to 8 mm, a roomier toe box, more aggressive lugs and slightly softer CMEVA; a little heavier and £10 dearer.
About each shoe
About the Guide TR
Saucony's Guide TR brings the broad-based design of its road Guide to mixed routes, aimed at runners who move from pavement onto gravel, packed dirt and light trails. Where the Guide 19 is a road stability trainer, the TR version adds a lugged outsole and a tougher upper. Alongside it, the Ride TR3 offers a PWRRUN+ cushioned road-to-trail option, and the Peregrine 16 covers more technical trails.
The midsole is a broad base of PWRRUN foam, which Saucony pitches for maximum cushioning and high energy return. A PWRTRAC outsole with 3.5 mm lugs is designed for grip from asphalt to dirt, and a toecap rand protects the front of the shoe. The high-tenacity mesh upper is built to be breathable and to add lightweight protection in high-abrasion zones while keeping debris out. It is not waterproof, has a removable insole and comes in a standard width.
Specs and features from mec.ca, roadrunnersports.com and our own spec data. A factual overview, not a review.
About the Challenger 8
Designed to move between pavements and easy trails, the Challenger 8 is effectively a trail adaptation of the Clifton, built on the same compression-moulded EVA used in the Clifton 10. Compared with the Clifton 11 it adds lugs, and it is lighter and less heavily built than the hybrid Stinson 8, making it the nimbler of HOKA's two road-to-trail shoes.
This version is much taller than the Challenger 7, with a 42 mm heel stack, and the drop rises to 8 mm. The rocker is more pronounced than before and the lugs more aggressive, with Durabrasion rubber applied to the lugs themselves while much of the foam stays exposed. A jacquard mesh upper made from recycled PET and twin tongue loops complete the build, and the toe box is roomier than on the previous version. Wide fittings and a waterproof Challenger 8 GTX are both offered.
Specs and features from runrepeat.com and our own spec data. A factual overview, not a review.
Guide TR vs Challenger 8
In short
Two cushioned road-to-trail shoes. The Challenger 8 is 46 g lighter, £10 cheaper and comes in a wide fit, and reviewers found it roomy and well cushioned, though its foam has modest rebound. The Guide TR has a broader, more stable platform and a 6 mm drop; independent reviews of it weren't out at the time of writing.
- LighterChallenger 8
- CheaperChallenger 8
- More widthsChallenger 8
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